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Derath Ellecon
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Posted - 2012.08.16 16:52:00 -
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Destriouth Hollow wrote:I hope this text isn't too long for anybody to read it and gives you all needed information to judge my offering.
It is too long, and has essentially no details beyond "your PI is good, but my snake oil is beter"
Why not put your math skills to use over in MD. I hear setting up an EVE bank is popular. |
Derath Ellecon
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Posted - 2012.08.17 20:46:00 -
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Destriouth Hollow wrote:
Yes it is a little long. Im sorry for that. What do you mean by MD? Also dont know anything about EVE Banks, but i imagine few people trust a 1month-char. As most of you feel too (:
Long wouldn't be so bad. Lack of substance however does.
MD-Market discussions. And yes a joke. Someone comes in from time to time with a "bank" style idea. Every one so far has ended up a ponzi scheme. |
Derath Ellecon
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Posted - 2012.08.18 08:54:00 -
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Destriouth Hollow wrote:The first couple contracts are out. I have to take back the offer of reduced pay. Prices are normal now.
Expecting glowing testimonials any day now... |
Derath Ellecon
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Posted - 2012.08.22 21:27:00 -
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Talfon Dre't wrote:I used his services, and overall I'd say it was alright. If you're starting out in PI, this would provide some good information. However, if you're an experienced PI capsuleer, or Industry professional, I don't think you'll learn anything new. The entry price is kind of high, but you will eventually make it back, it all depends on how much initial work you put into it. With the information I was given, I could produce about 3.25m isk every ten hours. That's my honest assessment, so take it or leave it.
Certainly a far cry from the claims of the OP. 234mil a month? I have been making more than double that without even putting much work into it. And setting it up so I only had to deal with pi every 5 days or so.
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Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings
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Posted - 2012.08.23 02:17:00 -
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Barakach wrote:72m/day?
6m/planet every 10 hours is an average of 600k/hour
It's not theoretically possible to create enough P0 to be worth that much, yet alone process it. You would have to import materials to even output 600k/hour of gross value. Net profit would only be a percentage of that.
I'm calling BS on 600k/hour of profit on one planet.
He isn't
1 planet with 10 installations? It's a factory planet. When doing PI in a wormhole I was doing it from P0 to finished product. My extraction planets generally ran 10-12 installations (launchpad, ECU with 10 heads, the rest basic processors). Even with the rich WH planets it was sometimes difficult to extract fast enough to keep more than 8 processors running full time. And that setup would never generate that much income, as none of the P0 or P1 is worth enough.
So it's a factory planet. So in terms of the OP.
1. It's not some amazing program that should have taken 20 hours to code. It's simply excel-fu to figure out what products are profitable from stage X to Y.
2. It's not "minimal effort". I had looked into it when my alliance had taken over a section of lowsec near a trade hub and installed POCO's While the amount of isk I calculated I could make was very high, the amount of work would be far more than my WH operation. I'm talking freighters worth of material to haul in (to lowsec) and finished product to haul out and sell. And planets that needed to be refilled at best every other day. Certainly not a low amount of effort.
Also, any testimonies now are suspect anyhow. You won't know any real numbers for at least a month of actually running your PI and selling the product.
I'm sticking to my original story. If unsure of how that story goes I suggest the classic 1957 film "The Music Man"
For example, the fact that the OP has already shut down shop due to "overwhelming demand" before anyone has had time to even run their "optimal personalized setups" to give proper feedback, fits the story to a "T".
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Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings
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Posted - 2012.08.23 15:02:00 -
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Talfon Dre't wrote:Derath Ellecon wrote:
1. It's not some amazing program that should have taken 20 hours to code. It's simply excel-fu to figure out what products are profitable from stage X to Y.
2. It's not "minimal effort". I had looked into it when my alliance had taken over a section of lowsec near a trade hub and installed POCO's While the amount of isk I calculated I could make was very high, the amount of work would be far more than my WH operation. I'm talking freighters worth of material to haul in (to lowsec) and finished product to haul out and sell. And planets that needed to be refilled at best every other day. Certainly not a low amount of effort.
Like I said originally, I don't think it was some revelation from God type of system, but it would be good for people in the beginning stages of PI and trying to find a profitable starting point. I had setup a couple of different PI scenarios in a couple of different areas, and found the work per isk to not be worth it. With the information he gave me, it really did set me in a different direction with a different idea on what I wanted to do, and so far I'm much more profitable. The effort required to setup is maybe an hour if your going to do multiple planets, but there is hauling involved, but with the setup he gave me, I'm looking at hauling a couple of times every couple of days, so I don't think that's a big deal. Plus I'm only hauling one jump.
I am glad you are happy. It is mostly that your own testimonial is certainly way off the mark from the OP's claims. For example:
"My current setup with Command Center Upgrades LVL 3 + Interplanetary Consolidation LVL 3 + never leaving high-sec gives me an income of 360mio ISK per month. It needs hauling every 3,4265 days"
"With the optimal setup my character could alone make more than 14billion ISK (yes im talking about 28 PLEXes) a month."
Maybe if the OP had been a bit more reasonable with his claims, he would have been more believable. |
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